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steve
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Posted - 02 Mar 2012 :  15:48:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Begium didnt come the year after we beat them because the tournamnet date clashed with there own leagues finals day

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Marc
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Posted - 02 Mar 2012 :  18:35:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course, of course... That too. But not just that. Consider also that this tournament is in the same weekend every year...

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Steve Barker
KorfballNet.com


USA
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Posted - 02 Mar 2012 :  19:42:11  Show Profile  Visit Steve Barker's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Belgians are historically 'bad losers' (and it is always the fault of the referee and never their own) which is surprising when you consider that in terms of the competition with the Dutch, other than the short period under Rudy Ramaekers, they have had plenty of experience at losing.

A few years back there had been talk of including the likes of England and Germany into the Annual Inter land event between The Netherlands and Belgium at the junior age groups which made a lot of sense but it never transpired sadly.

The inclusion of England into the Junior Korfball challenge event was in recognition of the talent development work done over the last 10 years and England went on to finish 2nd above Belgium and all the other Dutch regions at the U19 level a couple of years ago.

England needs to competing more often with The Netherlands and Belgium far more than is currently the case at all levels but both the Dutch and Belgians will only be interested in doing so if we can compete with them and that relies heavily on whether we have been able to keep the momentum of our talent development to ensure we are continuing to develop the quality of players that took second place at the challenge.

Far too many of the games in current competitions are pointless exercises in terms of pushing us to higher levels, and in that way facing a stronger group is of benefit

These was talk of running a two tier structure for the JWC a couple of years back but this never materialized. Had it we would have faced a tournament where every game was a competitive challenge which is what we need.

The problem is consistency in terms of each nation's talent development programs and it is only the Dutch, Belgians and Taiwan (and in recent years England) that consistently produce good quality players at the younger age groups.

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Josh
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Mar 2012 :  19:13:46  Show Profile  Visit Josh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just so people don't think korfball is unusual in having convoluted qualifying systems, this is how associate cricket nations qualify for the World T20:

The two sides that top their respective groups will feature in the 1st Qualifying Final at the Dubai International Cricket Stadium on March 22 with the winner progressing to the World Twenty20 in Sri Lanka

The sides that finish second and third in the two groups will play cross-over matches. The two winners will progress to the Preliminary Final to be played on March 23 at the Dubai International Cricket Stadium. The 2nd Qualifying Final - for the second spot in the World Twenty20- will take place on the morning of March 24 between the loser of the 1st Qualifying Final and the winner of the Preliminary Final.

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sicknote
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Posted - 19 Mar 2012 :  19:20:24  Show Profile  Visit sicknote's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Finish top of the group, get two bites of the cherry at getting to the finals, seems fair enough?

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Josh
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Posted - 19 Mar 2012 :  19:36:15  Show Profile  Visit Josh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Or you know, the top two teams could qualify as of right without any cross pool matches.

But it's not that I'm criticising the format (in which case my criticism would be that not enough associate nations get to play in the final tournament), simply pointing out that most sports tie themselves up in knots trying to get a balance between widening participation, maximising quality matches and maintaining fairness.

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Ben K
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Posted - 08 May 2012 :  14:49:57  Show Profile  Visit Ben K's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://ikf.org/ikf/ikf-u23-world-korfball-championship/1831-ikf-u23-world-korfball-championship-revised-pools-and-match-schedule

Seems like the IKF may have seen the error in their ways and used the withdrawal of the Czechs to make the pools more even?

Certainly good news for England.

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gotkorf
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Posted - 09 May 2012 :  00:57:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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http://ikf.org/ikf/ikf-u23-world-korfball-championship/1831-ikf-u23-world-korfball-championship-revised-pools-and-match-schedule

Seems like the IKF may have seen the error in their ways and used the withdrawal of the Czechs to make the pools more even?

Certainly good news for England.


Did you not read Graham's explanation on earlier pages?
New pools, same ranking system used, makes complete sense to me.

A better chance for England? Maybe? But that was probably Ikf's least concern!

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Marc
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Netherlands
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Posted - 09 May 2012 :  20:59:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, it looks like a pretty good group for England, good possibility to become second. Just hold off those pesky Germans, which should be pretty doable.

What I see as worrying is that the Czechs aren't able to visit what I think is one of the more prestigious events in korfball, when it is fairly close (Barcelona). For me this is not a good development for global korfball. On the other hand I am happy to see China participate and will follow their performance with great interest.

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Steve Barker
KorfballNet.com


USA
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Posted - 11 May 2012 :  04:43:31  Show Profile  Visit Steve Barker's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A very handy development for England and certainly a far less tough pool.

I share Marc's concerns about the Czech republic and it is disturbing to see a nation ranked so highly not being able to attend such a major championships, especially when so close.
It will certainly be interesting to see how China does.

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