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rocco
Star Player
279 Posts |
 Posted - 24 Jul 2012 : 23:08:10
Kingfisher korfball club are looking to hear from any players who think they are capable of for filling vital roles in its national league squad. Due to the loss of several players for different reasons we have positions for 1 female and 1 male player, anyone interested please email me at kfsquad@yahoo.co.uk
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korfballguy
Star Player
128 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2012 : 14:57:19
Isnt this a bit desperate? What happens if you dont get these players, what does it say to people that will play instead?! "Oh your only playing because we couldnt get anyone else!"
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Arnold
World Class
United Kingdom
616 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2012 : 10:52:42
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"Oh your only playing because we couldnt get anyone else!"
I would take that as a compliment, actually! Ryan Giggs is probably not the best over-23 player in the whole of Britain, but do you think he gives a toss that "he's only playing because they couldn't get Rooney, Gerrard or anybody else"? And if I were boy no.7 in the Kingfisher squad, and boys no. 1, 3 and 5 moved on and no one came back in, I'd be delighted to be given the opportunity to play regular first-team matches, even if I were the weakest boy on the team. Arnold
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steve
World Class
United Kingdom
955 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2012 : 21:29:15
What i find more interesting is i thought there was top players coming back from uni to kent so im now assuming there not joining kingfisher.But this is a big problem for english korfball in that the only way for kingfisher to compete is for them to get people in. Coaching in england is like hitting your head against a brick wall. It doesnt matter how hard you train with x group of players if you dont have 8 of the top 30 players your not competing. I believe ross was told at his interview he hadnt done anything of note as a coach to warrent the england job. ie he hadnt been able/lucky enough to lure all the best players into one team
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rocco
Star Player
279 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2012 : 07:14:48
It's interesting to see the difference in attitude between a defeatist and an opportunist.
If you look at the players kingfisher have lost over the last two seasons, no club in the country could sustain such a loss. Two seasons ago we lost Amy turner, Sammy Bedford and Jordan lown, three of the best youth talent in the country one of which went on to be best female player in a big international competition recently. The following season we achieved our highest position in the national league. This year we have lost 4 more top players all of which have represented the country at different levels. Unfortunately our club is not a bottomless pit of players capable of filling these loses. Yes maybe next year or the year after things might be different.
Yes Steve you are right to a point about the England job and coaching in GB. Top players only want to join successful clubs or are told be national coached where the would get the best coaching/better quality korfball. It's was more about whether the players would respect someone who hasn't achieved anything of note as a player or coach. To me that shows the mentality of korfball in this country.
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franks
World Class
United Kingdom
563 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2012 : 18:19:46
Echo Ross - we've been losing players to Uni for the last 5 years and it will catch up with us. We only have to have one bad year with our junior recruitment and that will create a bit of a problem, but that is how we function.Maybe some of our players will come back from Uni - but they will have their lifestyle/future to consider first - we will always respect that, just as we have always put the educational needs of our young players first and foremost. And what's wrong with asking if people would like to join what is well known as an enjoyable club to belong to.
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steve
World Class
United Kingdom
955 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2012 : 07:07:52
Ross your bang on with the respect for the coach thing.What people in england dont seem to understand is that the coach is doing what they think is correct and need to be trusted, as soon as one big name player is put out of place and the moan to the right people the coach is under pressure! Thats never going to help english korfball,from my experience in holland now i can honestly say the biggest difference is that what the coach says goes and if you as a player dont like it then see you later
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Marc
KorfballWorld.com
Netherlands
1753 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2012 : 23:12:49
You are recruiting players for the highest standard English league through this forum?Think different - Korfball |
rocco
Star Player
279 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2012 : 12:26:19
Sorry marc what part of my post didn't you understand.?
Steve you are exactly right what the coach says goes. People in England think they know best and struggle with being told what to do. If they don't agree with it they moan and try to cause trouble. Unfortunately because of the size of the sport they know most coaches will just put up with it rather than loose there best players.
I've heard numerous stories about top clubs players not attending training sessions and still starting every week. I'm sure in Holland that would not be exceptable..
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steve
World Class
United Kingdom
955 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2012 : 18:31:49
The problem with things in england is that 1 player can make or break a team and these players know it.from my experience in holland i can say the coaching in england at the top level is generally the same. the big difference is that the players work non stop, in england players drop out to get a drink,go toilet,fake injury to get a 2 min rest. How many coaches find players cant complete training but are fine once the game at the end of train comes around? these players know they wont be dropped as for most clubs it serioursly affects the standard of the team, thats why the best teams over the last 15 years has been the club with the most top players That sounds simple but its down to the fact that these players then cant afford to miss training or be slack as there place is gone. clubs wont back the coaches tho cause they know the player can turn up to the same hall the next evening and be training with a club that will let them do what they want. all clubs/ coaches need to get together and have some basic rules that they will stick to to make players work harder to push british korfball on
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Matt Von Leicester
Star Player
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 08 Aug 2012 : 13:02:45
That's a great concept Steve, but it's not practical.A coach is not going to put themselves in a situation where they can't select players who can win the game. If you bring in a set of league rules it will be almost impossible to create a set that everyone is happy with and takes into account things like injuries, holidays, etc... Getting more people in the sport is an obvious solution, widen the talent pool and you automatically raise the standard of those at the top. I know this is long term, but our site has seen inundated with queries during the olympics and I have been told Bristol were able to create another whole club purely through a big web push. Maybe the EKA should look at creating a standard web setup which clubs can buy into which links into social media and allows them to blog and pull info from EKA website. You then wouldn't need to have someone with a vast amount of experience or time in every club. Our club hopes to add another 10 names to our roster over the summer and pre-season. If 70 clubs did this every year for 3 years, that's another 2000 members. I'm not trying to say that's easy, I'm just saying it's maybe a more positive and effective form of motivation than a set of bye-laws, and therefore more deserving of our time. Another option is....My old basketball coach used to say the player who attended training the most was a guaranteed selection. I had only just made the squad at try outs and our school was constantly in the top 3 in the north of England, top 10 nationally, so I knew my only route onto the squad was the training selection. In the end the coach ended up expanding it to two guaranteed and three guaranteed because the ones who trained the most became the best players in the squad. The other players hated the automatic selection at first, but after a while, and after a few more titles for the school people forgot about it, because you couldn't deny it worked. Leicester Tornadoes - Founders of sexy korf. Est 2007 www.leicesterkorfball.org.uk |
Kingfisher Seek national league players
