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Korfball Kathy
Star Player


United Kingdom
287 Posts
Posted - 30 Apr 2012 :  10:09:09  Show Profile  Visit Korfball Kathy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Woo hoo ! Nottingham won the EKA Cup! Roll on the League Finals and doing the double!

It was especially great for some of our juniors to see top quality korf and have fun making lots of noise with frying pans and biscuit tins and doing the Mexican wave!

To top it all, Nottingham 4 also won their game against Nottm. Uni 2

I'm sure others will come along and have their say about the day, but I was there from 10.40am until the end and thoroughly enjoyed it !

Korfball Kathy

Nottingham K.C.

Blam
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Apr 2012 :  14:08:37  Show Profile  Visit Blam's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It was great having the juniors there, thanks for organising them Kathy :-)!

Also well done to Cambrdge City for their Bronze medal!!!

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Nick
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Posted - 30 Apr 2012 :  19:29:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cambridge City would like to thank the EMKA and EKA for organising the event.

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Deano
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 May 2012 :  21:13:23  Show Profile  Visit Deano's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Did Nottingham have a head start over Trojans in the final?

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Big Al
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New Zealand
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Posted - 02 May 2012 :  00:24:27  Show Profile  Visit Big Al's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Notts had a 3 goal head start - I personally think there should have been no goal advantage to Nottingham.


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Blam
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United Kingdom
168 Posts
Posted - 02 May 2012 :  10:43:37  Show Profile  Visit Blam's Homepage  Reply with Quote
but just to point out we won by more than 3 ;-), but i agree with Al, i don't think there should have been a handicap either.

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Matt Von Leicester
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United Kingdom
219 Posts
Posted - 02 May 2012 :  12:25:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was a good event, the junior cheering section were fantastic and as good as the games look on video (and I am working on videos for those who want to see the Notts games), the pace at which the running shots are taken and seeing some of the long shots drop is still impressive in person.

The final was good, but as others have said, Notts didn't need the 3-0 start, especially as they quickly extended it to 6/7.

However, the 3rd/4th playoff was very exciting; Cambridge's 7 goal headstart was down to 1 at the half, but the second half was fantastic, very tight. KV always looked like they could very quickly shut the gap but Cambridge fought very well. There were a couple of very nice long shots including one brilliantly worked free pass that kept KV out.

I believed as others did, before I watched that game, that the goal gap shouldn't feature in the quarter finals onwards, but here it created a brilliant match to watch so now I'm in two minds.

Korfball's Unofficial Number 1 DJ and Entertainer

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Dave Paton
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United Kingdom
32 Posts
Posted - 02 May 2012 :  12:37:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Isn't the whole point of the handicap system to give smaller/lower level teams the opportunity to win the cup/advance to the next round?

If the handicap is removed at any stage then all that will happen is that any national league teams will destroy teams that have made it through with a handicap in the previous round.

Okay, Notts didn't need the handicap in this final - but what would have happened if Cambridge had made it through to the final? Would you have wanted the handicap removed then?

The EKA cup needed rejuvenating - the EKA have tried something which appears to have been succesful and I think they should be congratulated for it.

Hopefully with Cambridge's success more teams will be inclined to enter next year!

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Doomsday
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Posted - 02 May 2012 :  12:57:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Hopefully with Cambridge's success more teams will be inclined to enter next year!

Presumably Bec won't be one of them, assuming they have been banned from next years competition?

We're still waiting for Becs official statement as to why they withdrew from their quarter final match against KV (which mysteriously has yet to be published by Bec despite assurances from Mr Paton to do so).

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Dave Paton
Squad Player


United Kingdom
32 Posts
Posted - 02 May 2012 :  14:27:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, and as I stated at the time I will do so once the issue has been resolved with the EKA.

Now back to a more positive aspect - will teams be more inclined to enter next year? I hope so...

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Janine
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 May 2012 :  19:42:10  Show Profile  Visit Janine's Homepage  Reply with Quote
First, thank you to the EMKA for organising the day on Sunday. Cambridge City certainly enjoyed it and are wearing their Bronze medals proudly

quote:
will teams be more inclined to enter next year?

I guess the proof will be in the pudding.

These are my thoughts on the Cup 2012/2012 (my personal thoughts, not those of Cambridge City).

The handicap system....... Cambridge City played 4 matches with a handicap deficit, but "benefited" from a headstart against Mitcham, Trojans and KV. There are obviously pros and cons with the handicap. The handicap made the games against the so-called "weaker" teams much more interesting. However, personally, I did not like starting matches with a head-start. If we win a match, I want to win it because we won it, not because we've been given a head start, and I was quite embarrassed that we had progressed to the finals, having lost to Mitcham 15-6 in real terms in the QF. I was much prouder that we managed to hold Trojans to 1-2 (unadjusted score) for the first 12 minutes of each half of the semi-final, and that we won the second half of the 3/4th play off against KV 8-7 (unadjusted score), than that we won a Bronze medal. That said, without the handicap system, we would not have had the opportunity to play against Trojans or KV, and in a season where we have found ourselves with few competitive matches at Regional League level, it was good to be able to pit ourselves against higher level competition. Generally, I thought the handicaps which were not adjusted by the 10-0 cap were about right (the 10-0 cap is probably too low).

Shot clock...... I really think that the shot clock should be used, even more so if the handicap system is used again. I know this is not possible in the early rounds, but think that it should be used from the QF onwards. It is probably no coincidence that the scores in the Cup were generally lower than those seen in the EKL or the Regional Leagues which use a shot clock. And playing the Cup finals without the shot clock is hardly great preparation for the EKL finals / CT the following week!

Number of matches and allocation of home / away fixtures.....One "down" side for us, was the number of additional matches. In a season where we already had 26 Regional and Local League games scheduled, and 4 players involved in National Squads, this has led to considerable fixture congestion and, at times, fatigue. This was compounded by the travel involved. We played 7 matches, not one of them at home, and travelled to Kent, Leeds, Mitcham and Nottingham. I firmly believe that if you want to play high level sport, you have to be prepared to travel, but just one home fixture somewhere along the way would have been nice

In terms of the future of the Cup, I think we need to reflect on the purpose of the Cup is / just how pretigious an event the Cup is intended to be.

I remember a day (and now I feel old) when the Cup Finals day was arguably the biggest event in the domestic Korfball calendar, with a Cup competition being run in all age groups from Under 9s to Seniors, and (though it is quite possible that my memory is wrong here) the Winner secured a place at the Europa Sheild, if they had not already secured a place in Europe by their position in the Premier League (when England had 2 places).

The Junior Cup Competition now no longer run, the handicap system has been introduced (intended to increased participation), the event was the week before the Grand Finals / Champions Trophy, and there was just one representative from the EKA (who are, no doubt, overwhelmed with planning for the Grand Finals / Champions Trophy).

I would love to see a return of the "old style" Cup Competition with a re-introduction of the Youth Cups and a Cup finals day which spans the age groups, where the best teams compete at the highest level and the result really has some consequence. Of course, everyone wants to win the Cup, but does everyone really want to win it? What is more important..... EKL / CT or the Cup?

Cambridge City - looking to the future

Edited by - Janine on 02 May 2012 19:46:22

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