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Steve Barker
KorfballNet.com
   
USA
2757 Posts |
Posted - 09 Feb 2012 : 19:41:44
USA Korfball is currently ranked 34th in the world.How can we begin to change that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IKF_World_Korfball_Ranking
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Marc
KorfballWorld.com
   
Netherlands
1753 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2012 : 00:52:06
Participate in ranking events, or set one up. When the US would have participated in the 2011 World Championships, they would have gone up a few spots already, I think. If I remember right, they were offered a spot, but declined.An alternative would be to create a continental championships, probably encompassing the Americas, so with also Brazil participating. As far as I know, continental championships also award points. Now the US basically only gets points for being a member. I think the country level also awards you some points. So when you can get from D/E status to say C, you will also get more points. I am sure Graham will elaborate when I missed some options. Think different - Korfball |
Steve Barker
KorfballNet.com
   
USA
2757 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2012 : 17:22:19
I am aware that the USKF is thinking about a continental championships and I am sure Dave will elaborate on this when he reads this post.The problem for the USKF is that is currently has almost non existent resources and struggles to even afford the money the IKF charges it to remain a member. Korfball is scattered across the country with pockets in and around Chicago, New York, Phoenix and LA and only two individuals from the days when the US won bronze in the World Games and hosted tournaments in LA and Tulsa remain involved in the sport. The IKF promotion tour back in 2005 created considerable interest in the areas it visited, in particular around Chicago, but no one appeared to have considered what happens when a school asks the question "where do I buy the equipment to get started" and that remains a problem. Some of the teacher who attended those workshops have managed to find ways of getting Korfball into their schools, something I am aware of because I have been able to assist in securing the baskets, which of course have to be imported from Europe. There are over 5 million kids playing 'soccer' in the US primarily because was the only sport that boys and girls could easily play alongside each other and because it was new. The question for the USKF is whether to go down the route that many other nations have done and follow the Dutch club based model or whether to build the foundations of the sport from the ground up by focusing initially in schools, which is what I personally believe is the way forward.

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Marc
KorfballWorld.com
   
Netherlands
1753 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2012 : 02:44:52
Personally I think it works to adapt the local sports system. As the US sports system starts in schools, that looks like the way to go. I am now active in Belarus and they basically have a similar system. There korfball has been introduced on a number of schools. As you point out, also there the co-education factor is a plus. Of course the much smaller size of the country makes it easier to connect with different areas where korfball is played than in the US.Since the US is rated a D country, having difficulties to pay the IKF membership sounds quite bad... What about manufacturing at least the posts locally? The plans are freely available, so any manufacturer can make them. I am sure you know this, being in selling korfball equipment for so long now. Think different - Korfball |
Korfin in the USA
Star Player
  
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2012 : 17:07:04
The United States will not move up in the rankings unless we participate in international events. We discussed having our continental championship that would include North and South America but have not made this tournament a reality. The United States has offered to host a WC qualifying tournament on two occasions but it was too expensive for Brazil. It is difficult to organize such a tournament because of the cost involved for the traveling squads. The US could have participated in China but the timing of the tournament, October-Nov, and the length made it hard for US players to commit. It would be awesome to play in a qualifying continental championship tournament against the teams of South America. It was suggested that we play in Colombia prior to or after the World Games. Maybe it will happen. We have aspirations of participating in the next WC in Belgium and will make preparations to have a team.David www.uskorfball.org Edited by - Korfin in the USA on 01 Apr 2012 17:14:04 |
Marc
KorfballWorld.com
   
Netherlands
1753 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2012 : 18:59:08
David, look forward to the US qualifying for 2015 and then seeing you again. It has been a loooong time.   Think different - Korfball |
Korfin in the USA
Star Player
  
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2012 : 17:48:21
Still hoping that the IKF will have a Masters tournament or maybe a wheelchair tourney by 2015.David www.uskorfball.org |
Korfin in the USA
Star Player
  
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2012 : 17:58:13
Look there's Dave Warren, he's old enough to be his teammate's grandfather. His shorts are really short.David www.uskorfball.org |
franks
World Class
   
United Kingdom
563 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2012 : 21:13:36
We can only hope that the USA can build up. We do wish them well and when David and his group came to England we very much enjoyed their company - so good luck to Korfball USA.Perhaps Steve B could become involved with a elite group for 2015 - is that a viable project? 
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Steve Barker
KorfballNet.com
   
USA
2757 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 03:50:54
The problem is that Korfball is almost entirely unknown in the US and developing a team from nothing to compete in a major championships in less than 3 years would be a major achievement.Personally as much I would love to get back into coaching at that level I believe the answer is to focus on progressive junior programs and talent development taking a longer 10 year view, something that in terms of international competition has proved hugely successful for English Korfball in the last decade. The problem is the USKF has very very limited resources both financially and in terms of human resources and being so far away from Europe the provision of equipment, especially baskets and balls, remains a significant hurdle. Soccer established it itself in the US primarily as a children's game (and now has over 5 million children playing it) and one of the most attractive elements for parents was that it offered a sport where boys and girls could play together If the US could get Korfball into schools in just a couple of regions things could really take off. The shorter term view, which the US has taken in the past, is to recruit basketball players, and give them a crash course in the rules, a route which saw them take the bronze World Games medal in 1985. The problem is that the sport had no true foundation in the US and almost completely collapsed a couple of years later were it not for the likes of Dave and Rebecca Shields keeping it alive. We would certainly be interested in hearing from anyone interested in becoming a friend of US Korfball and helping in any way they can. I still have visions of running a Korfball School of Excellence course in LA at some point but to make it viable we need some Korfball going on here first. If there is anyone in or around Los Angeles who would be interesting in helping promote the sport here I would love to hear from them 
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Marc
KorfballWorld.com
   
Netherlands
1753 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2012 : 21:53:36
Steve, I suggest you take the US take on it: start a korfball enterprise.Think different - Korfball |